On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 10:06 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 03:42:08AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > I'm very sorry for my bad mood and I apologize. > > But what I want emphasize is that we are losing the concept of > > stability not just in Fedora, it is in many other projects, KDE for > > example, simply don't have any "stable" or LTS release or something > > like that, that is real stable and solid as rock. > > LTS and unchanging really isn't in Fedora's charter. But, we do want > releases to be solid for daily use, and it's true that a stream of > updates can detract from that. I really would like us to follow the > long-standing official updates policy > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy which says that updates > within a release should have minimal disruption. > > I know this is at odds with many developer and packager desire to > make > updated software available quickly, and I know there are a subset of > users who like this too. The Modularity initiative aims to make it > easy for us to do _both_. > > > For packages maintainers like me, that maintain packages in free > > time, > > we got more and more work and begins to become impossible maintain > > all > > packages correctly, we got lot of packages that aren't updated > > because > > people simple don't have time, so should be important, that some > > team > > take care of completely out-date packages, like, for example, > > gitlib > > [1], also maybe in wild changes like systemd, selinux, appdata, > > etc, > > the team help packagers on maintain his packages. > > I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Do you > mean that it would be nice to have a team of people who would work to > update packages across the distro if there are big changes to core > packages? We actually have that, in the Proven Packagers team. See > the > "Mass package change proposal" for an example of this in action. yes , is that what I meant, I need help on selinux :) and webalizer ... Thanks , best regards. > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx