Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2017-07-21)

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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Adam Miller
<maxamillion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
> FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
> irc.freenode.net.
>
> To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>
> or run:
>   date -d '2017-07-21 16:00 UTC'
>
>
> Links to all issues below can be found at:
> https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
> = Followups =
>
> #topic #1741 - F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks
> .fesco 1741
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1741
>
> = New business =
>
> #topic #1736 - Don't automatically close security bugs on Fedora EOL
> .fesco 1736
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1736
>
> #topic #1737 - Proposal: i686 SIG needs to be functional by F27
> release date or we drop i686 kernel from F28
> .fesco 1737
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1737
>
> #topic #1748 - F27 System Wide Change: No More i686 Kernels
> .fesco 1748
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1748
>
> #topic #1743 - F27 System Wide Change: NSS Default File Format SQL
> .fesco 1743
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1743
>
> #topic #1744 - F27 System Wide Change: NSS signtool deprecation
> .fesco 1744
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1744
>
> #topic #1745 - F27 System Wide Change: Switch OpenLDAP from NSS to OpenSSL
> .fesco 1745
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1745
>
> #topic #1746 - F27 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy
> .fesco 1746
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1746
>
> #topic #1747 - F27 System Wide Change: RPM 4.14
> .fesco 1747
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1747
>
> #topic #1749 - F27 Self Contained Change: VirtualBox Guest Integration
> .fesco 1749
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1749
>
> #topic #1750 - Decide if EOL is one month after release, four weeks,
> or something else
> .fesco 1750
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1750
>
> = Open Floor =
>
> For more complete details, please visit each individual
> issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
> https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
> If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
> reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
> https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
> up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
> that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

===================================
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-07-21)
===================================


Meeting started by maxamillion at 16:00:04 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-07-21/fesco.2017-07-21-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* init process  (maxamillion, 16:00:07)

* Follow Ups  (maxamillion, 16:04:04)

* #1741 - F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks
  (maxamillion, 16:04:04)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1741   (maxamillion, 16:04:10)
  * LINK:
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ABWHDCTSPNCMOJYYTT4UZ3HCWVGCNLSR/
    (jforbes, 16:11:21)
  * AGREED: - APPROVED: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications
    as Flatpaks (+1:6, +0:0, -1:0) (Includes a +1 in ticket from absense
    FESCo member)  (maxamillion, 16:34:38)

* New Business  (maxamillion, 16:34:50)

* #1736 - Don't automatically close security bugs on Fedora EOL
  (maxamillion, 16:34:50)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1736   (maxamillion, 16:34:51)
  * AGREED: wait another week, ask for input from program manager and
    what work needs to be done with EOL scripts (+1:5, +0:0, -1:0)
    (maxamillion, 16:46:27)

* #1737 - Proposal: i686 SIG needs to be functional by F27 release date
  or we drop i686 kernel from F28  (maxamillion, 16:46:42)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1737   (maxamillion, 16:46:47)

* #1748 - F27 System Wide Change: No More i686 Kernels  (maxamillion,
  16:46:52)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1748   (maxamillion, 16:46:53)

* #1737 - Proposal: i686 SIG needs to be functional by F27 release date
  or we drop i686 kernel from F28  (maxamillion, 16:49:18)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1737   (maxamillion, 16:49:23)
  * AGREED: Proposal: Request criteria for what a "functional SIG" means
    in a measurable way (+1:5, +0:0, -1:0)  (maxamillion, 17:02:57)

* #1748 - F27 System Wide Change: No More i686 Kernels  (maxamillion,
  17:03:11)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1748   (maxamillion, 17:03:12)
  * AGREED: Proposal: postpone #1748 to F28 pending the outcome of #1737
    (+1:5, +0:0, -1:0)  (maxamillion, 17:08:01)

* #1743 - F27 System Wide Change: NSS Default File Format SQL
  (maxamillion, 17:08:12)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1743   (maxamillion, 17:08:12)
  * AGREED: F27 System Wide Change: NSS Default File Format SQL (+1:5,
    +0:0, -1:0)  (maxamillion, 17:15:22)

* #1744 - F27 System Wide Change: NSS signtool deprecation
  (maxamillion, 17:15:40)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1744   (maxamillion, 17:15:41)
  * We will revisit this next week as we just lost FESCo Quorum and will
    only cover tickets with votes in ticket by absent FESCo members for
    the duration of the meeting  (maxamillion, 17:28:57)

* #1746 - F27 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy
  (maxamillion, 17:30:02)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1746   (maxamillion, 17:30:03)
  * AGREED: APPROVED: F27 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup
    Redundancy (+1:5, +0:0, -1:0) (Including a +1 vote from the ticket)
    (maxamillion, 17:42:07)

* #1747 - F27 System Wide Change: RPM 4.14  (maxamillion, 17:42:18)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1747   (maxamillion, 17:42:18)
  * AGREED: APPROVED: F27 System Wide Change: RPM 4.14 (+1:5, +0:0,
    -1:0) (Including a +1 vote from the ticket)  (maxamillion, 17:52:45)

* Next week's chair  (maxamillion, 17:53:04)
  * jsmith volunteered last week to chair next week's meeting
    (maxamillion, 17:53:05)

* Open Floor  (maxamillion, 17:53:18)
  *
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Packaging_Rust_applications_and_libraries
    (maxamillion, 18:00:12)
  * AGREED: APPROVED: Packaging Rust applications and libraries
    (packaging guidelines (+1:5, +0:0, -1:0)  (maxamillion, 18:06:26)
  * maxamillion won't be at FESCo meeting next week  (maxamillion,
    18:08:51)

Meeting ended at 18:10:02 UTC.




Action Items
------------





Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* maxamillion (150)
* Rathann (81)
* ignatenkobrain (45)
* kalev (38)
* jforbes (35)
* nirik (32)
* puiterwijk (22)
* zodbot (22)
* mclasen (16)
* otaylor_ (14)
* sgallagh (8)
* smooge (6)
* jwb (0)
* jsmith (0)
* dgilmore (0)




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