Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Matthew Miller
> <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> I ran into this unannounced change:
>>>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels
>>> If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run will
>>> support SSE2, and we should reflect that in the i686 build flags.
>>> How likely is it that this proposal is accepted?  Ideally, we would know
>>> this before the mass rebuild so that we can change the compiler flags in
>>> redhat-rpm-config.
>>
>> Currently i686 users are at about 1/6th of x86_64 users, by mirror
>> checkins. I don't have an easy way of knowing how many of those i686
>> checkins are old releases -- I'll need to ask Smooge to make a custom
>> report -- but I think it's fair to guess that it's significantly tilted
>> that way. So, taking a SWAG, I'd say maybe 10% of our users would be
>> impacted. That's pretty big, but on the other hand if the cost is
>> disproportionate -- and having heard from the kernel people about this
>> for several years, I think it might be -- it's probably something we
>> should do anyway.
>>
>
> I'm actually somewhat against this change at well, as it's quite handy
> to have x86_32 images for constrained VMs/cloudy environments. I use
> it in this manner sometimes, and I know of a few people that do this
> *a lot*, too.

That's a common, and valid, usecase for a 32-bit *userspace* image.
You can run such workloads with an x86_64 kernel though.

The Change is not advocating for droping 32-bit userspace.  Only the kernel.

josh
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