Re: coreutils /bin file dependencies

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Many people do that and find it convenient, but I don't see how maintaining the same SPEC file for different distros is less of a maintenance burden
than having a different SPEC for each distro/branch you want to support.

And clearly, Fedora has diverged too much from any RHEL/epel buildroots currently, so keeping the same SPEC is even harder, not mentioning of course that
it's a recipe for disaster for automation tools like rebase-helper or things like targeted mass rebuilds (e.g. when python/ruby/perl are rebased so all
the respective packages have to be rebuilt) etc.

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Wielaard" <mjw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Igor Gnatenko" <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:57:11 AM
Subject: Re: coreutils /bin file dependencies

On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 10:11 +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 09:57 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 17:15 +0200, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > > For the record, there appear to be only 25 binary packages that
> > > depend on /bin coreutils paths[1]; 
> > 
> > I just took a quick look at the systemtap package. It has:
> > 
> > # On RHEL[45], /bin/mktemp comes from the 'mktemp' package.  On newer
> > # distributions, /bin/mktemp comes from the 'coreutils' package.  To
> > # avoid a specific RHEL[45] Requires, we'll do a file-based require.
> > Requires: /bin/mktemp
> > 
> > On RHEL5 the mktemp package only provides a /bin/mktemp and
> > no /usr/bin/mktemp. Now RHEL5 is fairly old and this Requires can be
> > changed for Fedora of course. But it might be that there are other
> > packages that share a spec file between RHEL and Fedora and have a
> > /bin
> > instead of /usr/bin Requires for this reason.
> RHEL[45] is dead, so feel free to drop this. Also polluting spec file
> with conditionals (or any other things) for unsupported/unrelated
> distros just create problems.

I won't argue about this particular case. RHEL4/5 is indeed pretty old
and I wouldn't mind dropping support for it.

But in general I like it when my spec files just work for building
packages across Fedora/RHEL/SoftwareCollections even if that requires a
few conditionals. For example I maintain valgrind and have it setup so
that I can use the same spec file to build for "regular" Fedora, but
also do a copr build for older Fedora or CentOS [1]. And the same spec
file can be used to build the Developer Toolset software collection. It
makes sure that there is a way to get the latest upstream (and
backports) make it to different users. Which, in my experience, creates
a better package for everybody since bug fixes are shared.

Cheers,

Mark

[1]
https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2017/06/18/valgrind-3-13-0-for-fedora-and-centos/
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