Forwarding to fedora-devel as well Charalampos Stratakis Associate Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michal Cyprian" <mcyprian@xxxxxxxxxx> To: python-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:19:00 AM Subject: What is your opinion on "sudo pip" fix for Fedora 27? At the present time, running sudo pip3 in Fedora is not safe. Pip shares its installation directory with dnf, can remove dnf-managed files and generally break the Python 3 interpreter. Our first attempt to make sudo pip safe on Fedora [0] was based on using a different binary (/usr/libexec/system-python) for RPM packaging purposes and changing the behavior of /usr/bin/python3 (and pip that uses its settings) to install under /usr/local by default. Switching all the Python 3 packages to system-python turned out to be much more problematic than expected and we had to postpone the Change for F27. We decided to try a different approach. The main idea is to detect an ongoing RPM build and modify the behavior of the Python 3 executable only when in normal user environment so that RPM builds won't be affected at all. The adjustment of the behavior can be done on different levels. The first option is to set the sys.prefix variable to /usr/local when the interpreter is initialized. This will affect all the install methods, but the solution can cause some problems in applications that rely on the value of sys.prefix. A prototype of this implementation can be seen here [1]. The other possibility is to limit the pip install location change to distutils and pip [2]. This is the "safer" option, but does not cover all corner cases. For example, Python software built locally using cmake or similar tools will be installed into /usr/lib and can conflict with system tools. Debian chose to implement similar solution. I would like to ask which solution would work for your applications better, and what is in your opinion the right way to go. I will appreciate any costructive comments or ideas on how to improve these patches. If you want to check some specific use-case you can use the images docker.io/mcyprian/sudo_pip_sys_prefix and docker.io/mcyprian/sudo_pip_install_prefix to try out the two mentioned implementations. [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Making_sudo_pip_safe?rd=User:Torsava/Making_sudo_pip_safe [1] https://github.com/mcyprian/python3/commit/6077c96460c03ddc334bae654fffcce44eb6873d [2] https://github.com/mcyprian/python3/commit/ac2f266a90871d67ba8d0b70d2b0ebe47732f064 Michal Cyprian _______________________________________________ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx