On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 09:06 -0700, Trever L. Adams wrote: > My examples are going to be somewhat bad, but please see through them > for the reasoning and the necessity of these features. > Discussion of hal happens on hal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > 1) We need a way to know if someone, using HAL, is logged in either in a > terminal or an X session. > > Think of a situation where you have a piece of software that needs to do > tasks from time to time (changing of runlevels is likely). > > You want to automate this, or at least be able to tell the machine to do > it. However, this process should wait (or the shell script that does all > the running) until no one is logged in. Yes, yes, who and w might > provide that, but I find this a cleaner solution. > Uhm, hal is piece of software that keeps a list of your hardware, provides hooks for configuring it, and notifies anyone who is interested when hardware is added/removed. What you suggest has nothing to do with that. > 2) We need a way to know if some critical process, such as up2date, is > being run at shutdown and allow the app, as long as it response every X > amount of time (2 minutes or so) to continue to run. > > Think of a network environment and someone is doing an up2date via cron > or ssh. Someone finishes using the computer and turns it off. This > should pause, in a test or graphical shut down, showing a list of such > processes. It should not execute any shut down sequences until this list > is empty, or they programs all cease to respond. > > These processes should notify HAL, that they need to complete and that > they have completed, and have an event handler to respond to HAL. > Uhm, no, this has nothing to do with hal. It belongs somewhere else. David