On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Japheth Cleaver <cleaver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 1/5/2017 9:12 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: >> >> On 05/01/17 09:56 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> Teamviewer comes in an i686 only package for Fedora. So is there going >>> to be this interim approach, and then yet another change when they're >>> expected to use FlatPak? That's a lot of changes... And are these two >>> approaches compatible with the other platforms they target, or are >>> they just likely to drop the one it stops working on? >>> >>> I can hardly imagine Teamviewer is the only 32-bit only GUI program. >> >> >> There are all sorts of proprietary programs like Skype that are only >> provided as 32-bit packages (there's a "skypeforlinux" package which >> is 64-bit but it's an "alpha" release). >> >> Maybe it would work fine from inside a 32-bit container, I have no >> idea, but we should be careful not to make it harder for normal users >> to install and use software distributed outside Fedora. And not make >> it harder for ISVs to provide RPMs that work on Fedora with minimal >> effort. > > > I feel like if this happens it will hasten the day when those of us > primarily working in EL-variant land have to consider a need for a new, > EL-forward, RPM-based open source "community" OS. Can you elaborate why you think that? Particularly the "EL-forward" part. I don't understand how Stephen's line of thinking is not EL-forward. > Fedora's role of breaking all sorts of things because $shinyNewParadigm -- > moving further and further from the semblance of stability available in just > being an extrapolation of where RHEL and its derivatives end up -- does > create certain operational borders. Eventually that friction becomes > unbearable. If it's containers you are talking about, then I'm even more confused. You're aware that containers are a very important part of the Red Hat ecosystem today, right? The value add of any enterprise distribution is to take $shinyNewParadigm, nurture it upstream, focus on stability and performance of the technologies in it's own offerings, and provide support. Not having a vibrant community project where some of this innovation can incubate is crippling any enterprise OS's ability to remain flexible and relevant in the market place. The days of RHEL being _only_ the thing you use on large datacenter servers are pretty much already gone. It is that, and much more. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
