Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora

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On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 07:08:13AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > Idea #1: Do not block on optical media issues for Alpha and Beta releases
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This is the less controversial idea, I believe. We received a concern
> from Matthew, who was worried that we might find out too late if we
> don't check it for Alpha/Beta. I partly agree, but believe we should
> solve it with an improved QA processes, instead of bumping the
> release criteria to apply earlier. He did not object to this, and
> nobody else did, so I assume everyone agrees :-) If there are no
> further concerns, I'll prepare a criterion adjustment proposal for
> this.

+1

> This was received with reasonably positive reception as well. But
> it's harder to compile a list which images should be covered by
> criteria and which not.
> - Workstation Live will be covered, that's clear - we give out these
>   DVDs at events, it's sent out to the developing world
> - Everything netinst is the most universal and generic netinst, so
>   covering that one means we don't need to cover Workstation netinst
>   and Server netinst. People seem to agree to this.

+1

> - Nobody argued for KDE Live. We probably don't bulk press KDE Live
>   DVDs. If we cover Workstation Live, it's improbable that only KDE
>   Live would break, but not impossible. If such thing happens, are
>   people OK with releasing Fedora XX KDE Live only bootable over USB?

I continue to believe we need the ability to release Spins independent
of the main release cycle. If there's a KDE-specific problem, rather
than that holding up the release *or* waiting six to eight months for
it to work again, there should be the ability to have it fixed a week
later. Or for that matter, if Workstation slips a month and KDE doesn't
want to, should be fine.

I know that we're not there yet, but I'll keep repeating it as a
desired state. :)

> - Server DVD is a mixed bag. Matthew didn't include it in his
>   block-list, Adam did. Neal uses it over IMPI (but netinst would be
>   good enough for him IIUIC, sans some package deps issue which can
>   be solved using a kickstart). I would appreciate more feedback from
>   Server folks. Again, we'll cover netinst so it's improbable DVD
>   would break, but not impossible. Are people OK releasing it only
>   bootable over USB (and PXE)?

I think netinst + USB covers the Server case well enough.


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