James Hogarth wrote: > This is an unfortunate downside of the present freeze process to an extent > ... Another main source of this issue is autokarma. IMHO, autokarma should NEVER be used (and should be dropped from Bodhi entirely), because it inherently breaks upgrade paths. (The solution for that would be to group the updates across releases and use one global karma value to trigger the pushes for all releases, but FESCo vetoed that approach. As long as this is not done for political reasons, autokarma will remain totally unsafe and unusable.) Unfortunately, the Bodhi developers are almost forcing everyone to use autokarma by not fixing these web UI bugs for over a month: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/1032 https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/1033 (and note that #1033 is about a non-working fix for the almost 10-month-old #772 – they took 8½ months to deploy a non-functional "fix") and not supporting editing existing updates from the CLI: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/1125 If people were ensuring that manual pushes are actually workable again, and if we would then start strongly discouraging (or ideally outright banning) autokarma, we would NOT have as many broken upgrade paths. Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx