Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

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On 11/10/2016 10:18 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 10 November 2016 at 09:27, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 11/09/2016 07:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> 
> 
> Here are the items I would like to point out:
> 
> 1. The TLD name should be something that DNS considers a known unknown
> name. With the fact that IANA is allowing top level domains of all
> sorts we do not want to end up having .fedora  or .foobaz end up
> causing thousands of computers saying they are in someones domain. So
> .invalid .localhost .example .local or .test . I expect that
> .localdomain might not ever be registered but who knows.
> 

RFC 2606[1]  reserves several TLDs that may never be registered for public
usage. Out of those, going with
Fedora-XXXXXXXX.localhost
seems like the best bet.


[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606#page-2


> 2. The XXXXXX is rather important because of two conflicting items.
> One we don't want it to be too short that collisions might occur a
> lot, but we don't want it to be too long for readability but also the
> less collisions the more likely it can be used to track people. If we
> don't care about making breadcrumbs which could be used to 'track'
> people we need to be clear about it so that people who are not wanting
> that can steer clear. [My 'I am an idiot about randomness' solution
> would be uuidgen | sum and that number is used for this. There is a
> good chance of uniqueness per small site and non-uniqueness overall. ]
> 

Again, I think that tracking issues are orthogonal to this ticket. Anyone who
sets a hostname *manually* is already unique. If that's something to be
concerned about, then it's better to solve that at whatever layers reveal this
information.


> 3. case-sensitivity argument about Fedora or fedora looks to be a
> bikeshed. There are probably local business reasons where having
> caps/lowercase in names is important but in those cases they should
> put in tools to conform to their local business reason.

Yeah, I mostly just want Fedora for the proper noun. Since it serves no
functional difference, I don't care much. After the conversation we've had so
far, I *do* think we're more or less agreed that we want the longer "Fedora"
rather than "fed" prefix though.


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