Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

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On Wed, 2016-11-09 at 10:04 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> 
> Dne 9.11.2016 v 00:19 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 05:25:36PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:49:42PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >>>> SUSE generates a random name of the format linux-XXXXXX (I'm not sure how many
> >>>> My proposal is that we should consider changing the default hostname for Fedora
> >>>> 26 to be either FED-XXXXXXXXXXX or FEDORA-XXXXXXXX. The former allows for a
> >>> How about non-yelly Fedora-XXXXXXXXXXX? Since SUSE apparently does
> >>> lower case, that should be fine, right?
> >> Bastian Nocera also filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392925,
> >> where he proposes "fedora" as the hostname. I think "fedora" is better than
> >> "localhost", and a non-constant hostname would be even better.
> >> For interactive installs (like with anaconda) it would be great if we could
> >> ask for the hostname. For non-interactive ones, "Fedora-[0-9a-z-]{8}" seems
> >> like a good option (*). It would give "branding", and solve the freeipa issues.
> >> It would also be a good default for the interactive case, so that people can
> >> "click through" without having to pick anything.
> >>
> >> (*) The suffix could include dashes for more possibilities, but they should
> >> not be adjacent or at the end.
> > I'm in favor of defaulting to "Fedora-[0-9a-z-]{8}" myself. However,
> > I'm concerned that people don't realize that we can, in fact, set the
> > hostname during installation. People usually don't because Anaconda
> > doesn't currently make that mandatory or otherwise note that it's
> > possible during the initial panel of spokes (hint: it's the networking
> > spoke), and so the default of "localhost" continues on without anyone
> > being the wiser.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Speaking in "workstation" context, people might realize it is possible
> to change, but they don't care. My computer is not my pet, I don't need
> to name it, I couldn't care less. Honestly, it would be better if the
> hostname was not shown in my terminal by default.

The hostname is shown, historically, to allow you to understand on which
machine you are running a command. It is oriented toward a sysadmin
world, where it is common to log into many machines via telnet/rsh/ssh
to perform various tasks.

If we can ship default configurations that show the hostname in PS1 only
for shells running on a remotely initiated connection and leave the
prompt to something very short then I think that would work fine. 

Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York
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