Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2016-08-12)

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On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 01:34:18AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > * #1592 - Redefinition of what constitutes a secondary/alternate
> > ~  architecture in Fedora  (sgallagh, 16:04:18)
> > ~  * AGREED: FESCo approves the new alternative architectures plan (+7,
> > ~    0, -0)  (sgallagh, 16:11:29)
> 
> Sigh! So the proposal to break Fedora got unanimously approved without 
> restrictions. I wonder why you requested a mailing list thread to be opened 
> at all, given that you simply completely ignored the mailing list feedback. 
> The "feedback request" from the proposal owners was already worded as if the 
> mailing list thread was only a formality, and it looks like they were right.
> 
> I still do not see why every exotic architecture no real user cares about 
> has to fail our builds instead of being built in its own koji-shadow sandbox 
> where it can only break itself. There was no satisfactory answer to that. 
> Our actual users use x86 machines. Delaying the builds for the machines our 
> users use by some indefinite time because of some obscure toolchain bug 
> affecting some toy machine only a couple people at Red Hat or at some 
> university have sitting on their desk helps no one. Real users do NOT use 
> dev boards without even a case, FPGA development kits, or similar developer 
> toys. They use "a computer", which out there in the real world means x86.

There's no situation where dev kits / FPGAs would ever become an
official Fedora architecture.  Even armv7 is built on server hardware
(old Calxeda stuff, or new aarch64 servers).

Rich.

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