Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates

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"Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@xxxxxx> writes:

> It's very simple to control whether something is pushed automatically, and
> it's also easy
> to control the amount of karma required for the automatic push.

Yes, I edited it.

> Not only
> is it documented, it is in the file you
> modify when submitting the update.  You have to READ.

What file?  There is tick box at the bottom of the web page that you
might assume had sensible defaults, and this isn't the same interface as
the one I originally used to do this, which may have read something
different.

> If you are
> submitting updates it is assumed you
> understand what you are doing.

Maybe I'm uniquely incompetent, unable to hold all the complexity in my
head between reviews/updates, and unable to deal with the breakage and
nasty interfaces of the tools, but experience suggests that's unlikely.
I may simply be willing to admit to errors and confusion in the face of
hostile responses to attempts to improve things; I see that too often,
and assume it drives off potential contributors.  Are we expected to
stop packaging if we fail to understand something about the pretty
involved process -- which isn't exactly stable anyhow?

This is about actual problems due to what I consider a bad default and
understanding what it does.  You can address that either by driving off
volunteers or trying to improve the process.

> LGTM is Looks Good To Me.

Yes, I know, but it's not necessarily obvious, and also is useless
without the value of "LG", or possibly "M".  If someone runs one of my
packages successfully on their HPC system, or fails to, it's useful to
know.  "Looks good" from someone without any context (like knowing what
"M" does) isn't useful.

It's obviously easy to make unjustified assumptions about what's
obvious, even if we can READ English.  It's not as if "karma" even seems
to be used according to the dictionary, and some of this is exposed to
users, if not as badly as it used to be.

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