On Qua, 2016-06-29 at 16:01 +1000, Jeff Fearn wrote: > On 29/06/16 12:08, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > > > per Build Root Without Perl Fedora 25 change > > > <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Build_Root_Without_Perl>, > > > I'm > > > ready to implement the most visible part of this change. > > That change completely fails to account for the unknown (probably > > very high) > > number of packages that run Perl scripts at any point of their > > build > > process. All the steps you documented to detect affected packages > > catch only > > packages that actually have Perl-related output (because you scan > > the > > RUNTIME dependencies for Perl module or libperl dependencies), > > which are > > only the tip of the iceberg. I expect this change to break a huge > > number of > > packages' build in very strange, hard to debug ways. It is likely > > that some > > will even silently build with some important functionality removed, > > because > > Perl was not available to build some generated file or test for > > some system > > properties. > > > > I also expect that a very high percentage of the packages will need > > a BR > > perl (if not perl-generators or even perl-devel), making any > > buildroot size > > savings moot, and actually SLOWING DOWN mock builds because perl > > will no > > longer be included in the root cache. > > > > IMHO, any approval you obtained for this feature needs to be > > revisited, > > because you failed to accurately describe the impact. > Good analysis. I do not agree with you , because running a perl command without perl installed, ends with and big error and stops the build , can remember any example that silent fail . > I would like the perl team to consider taking this opportunity to > remove > non-standard behavior instead of adding more. The whole perl/perl- > devel > split was to make the install smaller, mostly for build root reasons. > Since that is no longer a consideration can we make it so that > requiring > perl gets you a proper perl core installed? > > That should stop most breakage as anyone using none core stuff should > have had it specifically required anyway. > > Cheers, Jeff. > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject > .org -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
