On 12:04 08 Jan 2005, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: | On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 15:27 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > in this way _no_ mail reader needs extending because each remote service is | > apparently a local ordinary service. [...] | > I find it extremely convenient. | | It's a cute hack, but it doesn't seem to be as convenient as the way | that Evolution, pine and mutt do it for me transparently. Especially as | the mail servers I use tend not to have an IMAP d??mon listening at all, | and as it still doesn't perform the authentication for you in the way | that using SSH directly does -- your IMAP client would still need to | store a password. Sure, or get me to type it, but on the other hand the place I most do IMAP to doesn't give file-level access to the mail spool files. So I can't "ssh in and run an IMAP _daemon_", so a real IMAP connection is still required, so a password is _still_ required because ssh will only get you as far as the shell server. I don't just do IMAP this way. I do pop this way too, and point fetchmail at "zip.local" for that, too. And IRC. And you can generally get at any service this way. If you're routinely inside a firewall that doesn't allow much out but does allow ssh, you're in business and your tools don't need to know anything special. -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ And besides, we've already discussed the proper way to pick up a bike, at great length. You start by buying it a drink. - Joe McConnell <josephm@xxxxxxxxxxx>