On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 03:34:34PM +0200, Yanko Kaneti wrote: > On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 09:38 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:10:22AM +0200, Yanko Kaneti wrote: > > > On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:50 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > If you're on freshly installed Fedora 23 (x86-64), then > > > > > > > > dnf install gtk3-devel.x86_64 > > > > ...... > > > > > > > > Is this a bug or is it not expected this would work or I am doing > > > > it > > > > wrong? > > > > > > IMO trying to get this (i686 development environment on x86_64 > > > native > > > install) to work reliably and chasing down all the corner cases is > > > futile, leads to confusion instead of improving the developer > > > experience in any significant way compared to using mock and should > > > be > > > declared unsupported. > > > > The logical consequence of this is we would get rid of multilib > > entirely. > > Not really. Runtime multilib is quite valuable feature, as any user of > closed source blobs (Steam!!) could attest. Hmmm. Do we care about closed source blobs? Actually I really want 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' to work, because the alternatives (mock, virtualization) are not very good solutions because they are difficult to automate. I'm trying to build a 32 bit virt-p2v binary. virt-p2v is free software. Building a 32 bit binary is a useful thing to do since the binary is meant to be copied to ancient (pre-2004) physical hardware in order to virtualize what's running on that hardware. In the context of Koji or users doing `./configure && make' you can't really fire up a chroot or VM to do part of the build. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx