Re: security of the lookaside cache (was: frafra uploaded yumex-dnf-4.1.6.tar.gz for yumex-dnf)

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:38:35 +0100
Björn Persson <Bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Tim Lauridsen wrote:
> > How do i handle a situation where someone, without my knowledge
> > uploads new sources to one of my projects. It could be a security
> > problem ?  
> 
> While I trust that Francesco had only good intentions, the general
> question remains: Is it possible to modify a package without commit
> access by uploading a modified source tarball to the lookaside cache?

Not that I can see. 

> Without commit access to Git the attacker couldn't edit the sources
> file, so – assuming that everything that uses the lookaside cache
> bothers to verify the checksum – the attacker would have to forge a
> tarball that has the same MD5 hash as the original. That is an attack
> on the second-preimage resistance of MD5.

I don't think even that would work, as you cannot upload new sources
with the same md5sum as an existing upload. It would just tell you
it's already uploaded. 
 
> Practical collision attacks on MD5 have existed for more than a
> decade, but to the best of my knowledge no practical second-preimage
> attack is known yet. Thus it's probably not practically possible to
> do this at this time, except maybe to certain well-funded government
> agencies around the world, who may have made further advances
> attacking MD5 than the open cryptographic community has.
> 
> But still, why are we still using MD5?

It's being worked on, we just haven't gotten there yet... 

See: 

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5846

kevin

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