On Wednesday 09 December 2015 13:37:12 Paul Wouters wrote: > On 12/09/2015 01:04 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > Since this is likely to break networking on a lot of client-side systems, I would have expected you to do this research before submitting it as a System > > Wide Change. > > We did. We are the First at undertaking this at an OS level. If the others > proceed they will run in the exact same issue. The problem of broken and > badly designed DNS setups is, is that they only go away when it finally > breaks down. OK, but currently it's hard to estimate the amount of real-world breakage. E.g: if 90% of user setups will break -- the backlash would damage not only Fedora, but also DNSSEC adoption. Why don't we plan this feature in two stages: * Fedora 24: turn it on by default, but *keep using results* from bad DNS servers, just issue a user-visible warning, possibly with a link to a page with friendly explanation and suggestions for further action. * Fedora 25: we would have much better view of the amount and types of failures in real world (from F24). This would enable to improve/fine-tune the ways to handle problematic use-cases. So at that stage, we may ship DNSSEC as "fail-bad-DNS-servers-by-default". Make sense? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 oron@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx