Re: wayland in rawhide

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On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 15:40 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> On 11/25/2015 03:25 PM, drago01 wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Adam Williamson
> > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 14:34 +0000, Ian Malone wrote:
> > > > [1] Apparently middle mouse buttons are rare. I'm in an office
> > > This seems an odd assertion [...]
> > Its not odd ... its plain wrong.
> > 
> 
> I think Ian meant to say that the mice WITHOUT middle button are rare. 
> The quote above continues on like this:
> 
>     I'm in an office surrounded by them and them only computers I've used without one for roughly the past decade are my old laptop
> 
> Am I right, Ian?

No.

The wiki page explaining the GNOME-on-Wayland approach to middle-button 
paste - https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/PrimarySelection -
makes this claim as one of the reasons why it wasn't initially planned
for inclusion in Wayland:

"Additionally, reasons against keeping it:

    the middle click is a hard-to-discover easter egg
    there are few middle mouse buttons in the world"

Ian was, I think with reason, questioning the second of those. I was
pointing out that those are only a couple of *supplementary* reasons,
so it's not really worth spending much time disputing that assertion,
even though it does seem like an odd one. The primary reasons why
Wayland wasn't initially going to implement a PRIMARY selection
mechanism are given earlier in the page:

"Among the arguments for eschewing the PRIMARY selection were:

    It makes it easy to unintentionally paste passwords, snippets of
private conversations and other non-public information,
        into online communication. 
    security concerns with unexpected data stealing if the mere act of
selecting a text fragment makes it available to all running
applications"

and it goes on to propose that the primary selection should in fact be
implemented.
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