Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

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On 11/17/2015 06:17 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-11-16 at 20:39 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> b'NetworkManager': 138
> 
> NM does have a larger dep-chain than we'd like, however we did
> split the package apart a couple releases ago and made sure that
> WWAN, WiFi, and Bluetooth were no longer required for the server
> cases.  Could you confirm what NetworkManager-* packages are
> installed on F23 server?
> 
> The largest deps should be mostly glib2, systemd/udev, NSS, and
> D-Bus, all of which should already be on a server install.  We'd
> love to see if anything unexpected snuck into the dep chain.


It was actually included in the tarball I sent in the original email, but:
NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.6-6.fc23.x86_64
NetworkManager-1.0.6-6.fc23.x86_64

Yeah, I think NetworkManager is probably fine. It doesn't appear to be
using any packages that aren't also used by many other projects. I
need to figure out some better metrics for tracking this stuff down.

NM definitely requires a lot of packages, but it seems obvious that
the problem is deeper in the stack. Some package further back probably
has a large number of dependencies.

I just spent a little time tracing the dependency chain down and it
looks like it's getting most of the chain from
dbus->systemd->cryptsetup-libs->device-mapper-libs (at this point the
dependencies hit a cycle with systemd...)

The next largest dependency chain is with util-linux which appears to
depend on a large number of small storage-related and low-level tools.
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