On 11/03/2015 11:37 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 3 November 2015 at 16:16, Steve Dickson <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Are there any other examples of this? Ii just looked >> like a real hack to me... > > To put it in perspective, Kalev has helped me get the desktop RHEL 7.1 > update through the various RHEL processes, involving quite a few of > these bootstrap dependency issues. He knows more about this kind of > stuff than I do. Key word being.... "helped" not just do it... I would like a chance to at least looking into the dependency issue. Maybe bootstrapping is the only way, but a bz should opened to describe the problem and we should be having this discussion in that bz... IMHO... I think setting the precedence of allowing non-maintainers to make any changes they want is not a good direction for us to go... again... IMHO... Open up a bz and lets discuss it. > >> Its called having respect for maintainers... You just don't start >> hacking on people's packages just because you think or >> there is something wrong (and expect no push back) > > You should if you are a provenpackager, and your job requires you to > have a depsolvable Fedora. Breaking rawhide and then attacking the > person trying to fix it is not cool at all. Respect is a two way > thing. https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct The rawhide build didn't not break because of the dependency issues since this dependency has been around a long time... I'm trying to be as respectful and productive as I possibility can... I truly believe nothing positive comes out of negativity so I'm trying to be as positive as I can... steved. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct