On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 07:20:22AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/09/2015 09:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >On 8 October 2015 at 17:04, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>Christopher Meng wrote: > >>>IMO motif should 'Obsoletes' lesstif in Fedora since motif is free now. > >> > >>The reason we kept lesstif even after OpenMotif was finally freed is because > >>OpenMotif only implements the Motif 2 API, whereas lesstif implemented the > >>Motif 1 API. Back then, a lot of Motif applications did not compile with > >>Motif 2. > >> > > > >A lot of applications still do not mainly because by the time > >OpenMotif was out.. "Motif" was dead except for legacy computer code > >that a lot of research institutes still use. It looks from the amount > >of porting that has been done in this thread that a lot of those > >problems are easier to fix now? > > > > From the people who did the porting was it a quick fix or a bunch of patches? > > As far as the packages I touched are concerned, the "porting effort" > was very low. > > The effort basically was reflecting the packaging dep-naming changes > into the specs. > > I did not have to apply any changes to the packages' source code. My > guess is, on the code-level, today's "Motif" is sufficiently > backward compatible, the packages already saw testing against Motif > or even been developed on Motif (and then ported to lesstif)[1]. I > point, I which makes me wonder, is Fedora seemingly being late in > the switch to Motif in comparison to other distros. > > A problem hiding is package installation conflicts between the > *-devel package of different versions of the lesstif, openmotif and > motif packages. Therefore, I tried to stay with lesstif on fedora < > 24 and switch to motif only on fedora >= 24. > > I know, we are late in the release schedule, but I am considering to > switching at least Inventor to motif on fc23, as well - It's > unimportant enough to most users, but is important to me ;) I think that in a case of leaf package like that it totally makes sense to switch even this late before release. Removal of a dependency on lesstif seems important enough. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct