I'm not sure that this is common knowledge as it is not specifically mentioned in either: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_and_edit_comps.xml_for_package_groups or https://fedorahosted.org/comps/ that the default type for packagereq is "mandatory". As a result I believe that there are a *large* number of packages listed in comps that are inadvertently being marked as "mandatory", e.g.: <group> <id>standard</id> <_name>Standard</_name> <_description>Common set of utilities that extend the minimal installation.</_description> <default>false</default> <uservisible>false</uservisible> <packagelist> <packagereq>abrt-cli</packagereq> <packagereq>acl</packagereq> <packagereq>at</packagereq> <packagereq>attr</packagereq> <packagereq>bash-completion</packagereq> .... <group> <id>kde-desktop</id> <_name>KDE</_name> <_description>The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop widgets, and many powerful KDE applications.</_description> <default>false</default> <uservisible>false</uservisible> <packagelist> <packagereq>abrt-desktop</packagereq> <packagereq>adwaita-gtk2-theme</packagereq> <packagereq>akonadi</packagereq> <packagereq>akonadi-mysql</packagereq> <packagereq>akregator</packagereq> <packagereq>apper</packagereq> ... Almost none of those appear to be "Mandatory". We think this is becoming an issue now because it appears that dnf perhaps now prevents kickstart installs from removing mandatory packages from the install set. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199868 and the good detective work done by Adam Williamson for more background. So, it seems we can either (perhaps) go back to the previous behavior, and/or fix comps. We may want to fix comps anyways as I expect this has UI effects as well (perhaps cannot deselect packages after selecting a group?). -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion@xxxxxxxx Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.nwra.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
