hi This brings up a very good point. Why wasn't some kind of user feedback not developed for gnome 3.18? Now I am still waiting for gnome 3.18 to hit arch, and my fedora rawhide instal doesn't have it yet, so this could've been added, but I doubt it having checked the commit logs and news files. I do remember that there was a metered network feature api added to nm > 1.0, so it's now possible for us to at least attempt to detect metered connections. For me, software isn't particular slow. However, a progress bar at the very least would be nice. At present, all I get is a spinner, followed by ether "looking for updates" "checking for updates" or "downloading updates" followed by "panel Os updates provide important security ..." messages. I'm not complaining, just pointing out that for a blind person, some kind of feedback would be nice. It would also be nice for the "check for updates" button to receive focus when the updates button is switched. At present you have to know to press f10 to focus the ... is it a tool bar? and then press enter on the check for updates button. I can't comment on windows 10, as I don't use it. Last version I use is windows 7, and that only because my wife uses it, and I have to maintain it. I somehow got drafted as the tech support person. Thanks Kendell clark -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct