2015-09-14 12:45 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > and much more important: > > if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like > installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long > because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle anything else > like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to go that road? > Stop oversimplifying the debate, just integrating programming languages package managers into the distro one, doesn't mean there won't be any integration. We could: 1. integrate install by pip/gem/cpan into RPM database as previously said 2. integrate them with dnf 3. mirror upstream repositories and trim them for Fedora users 4. spend more time fixing integration issues upstream rather focusing on packaging. 5. focus on continuous integration of packages too I'm not saying that's the way we should go, but don't kill the discussion before it even started. It's important to leverage our past experience but we shouldn't let it tie us to the point we can't evolve anymore. What's important is not to ship code in little packages, but to ship a consistent and rock-solid experience to our users. And there's more than one way to do it. H. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct