Re: package-cleanup after F21

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Am 11.08.2015 um 17:48 schrieb Igor Gnatenko:
Leaves and autoremove a bit different stuff.. You'd want to use
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf-plugins-extras/blob/master/plugins/leaves.py

i'd want to use Fedora with packages from Fedora and ignored until now F22, but trying F23 and face that a whole release later the yum-replacement is still in a early stage makes let me puke

just the "Yum-utils package has been deprecated, use dnf instead. See 'man yum2dnf' for more information." message for a well known command found in howtos all over the web is a bad user expierience

from a users point of view i still miss a single improvement of that change - renaming everything, missing features - i want see you developers responsible for such changes when somebody sells you a car with the wheel on the backseat and call it a improvement

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 6:46 PM Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Am 11.08.2015 um 17:34 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
     > On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:15:58 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
     >
     >> so, upgraded to F23 with "dnf distro-sync" and how do
    dnf-developers and
     >> the people decided to replace yum at the moment imagine cleanup
    setups now?
     >>
     >> in fact after *every* dist-upgrade there are obsolete packages left
     >> because changed dependencies
     >>
     >> [root@rawhide data]# package-cleanup --leaves
     >> Yum-utils package has been deprecated, use dnf instead.
     >> See 'man yum2dnf' for more information.
     >    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     >    ^^^
     >    ^^
     >    ^
     >    (!) Scroll down to the bottom

    "dnf list autoremove" gives *nothing* while "dnf remove wget" as one of
    many samples could be removed without any deps - so i guess that's just
    working with the yumdb/dnfdb and is in *no way* compareable with
    "package-cleanup --leaves --all"

    "package-cleanup --leaves --all" for years now works perfectly, lists
    *any* package which could be unnstalled and so takes care in combination
    with own metapackages listing wanted programs as Requires to keep
    systems *absolutely* clean

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