Paul W. Frields (stickster@xxxxxxxxx) said: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 09:47:27AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > [...snip...] > > Perhaps it is time that we evaluate where i686 stands in Fedora more > > closely. For a starting suggestion, I would recommend that we do not > > treat it as a release blocking architecture. This is not the same as > > demotion to secondary architecture status. That has broader > > implications in both buildsys and ecosystem. My suggestion is > > narrowly focused so that builds still proceed as today, but if there > > is something broken for i686 it does not block the release of whatever > > milestone we are pursuing. > > > > (To be clear, I would support a move to secondary arch status for > > i686, but I am not suggesting it at this time.) > > So to put a finer point on this, our shipping i686 images depends on a > broader community effort beyond the kernel maintainers in the Fedora > Engineering team. That needs to precisely not mean more heroics on > the part of e.g. QE, rel-eng, etc. I have no idea what the pushback > on this issue is, but I'm sure this thread will tell us. But given > that Fedora is supposed to encourage such community effort, it would > be good to see what people are willing to do to build it. Here's my perspective as an i686 Fedora user... I have a box (2009-ish) that's in use as a file/backup server. As such, I don't spend a lot of time futzing with it - it doesn't run rawhide, it rarely runs the prereleases until beta or later time. If something breaks, I'll look at it, send some feedback, update it as necessary, and back off to a working version. And historically, it *hasn't* broken. But, if it did break that hard... would I spend a month digging into the kernel source and bisecting to try and find a fix? Or would I spend the $100-120 to slap a new motherboard in it and install the x86_64 version? I'd like to say I'd do the former. But realisitically it's the latter. And I wonder how much of the i686 Fedora-using community is in the same boat. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
