On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, 2015-07-30 at 19:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> Heya! >>> >>> I'd like to ask everybody to test kdbus on Rawhide. Josh thankfully >>> added it to the Rawhide kernel packages, and our systemd RPMs come >>> with built-in support, too now. If you are running an up-to-date >>> Rawhide system adding "kdbus=1" to your kernel command line is hence >>> everything you need to run kdbus instead of dbus-daemon. (No >>> additional RPMs need to be installed.) If you do, things should just >>> work the same way as before, if we did everything right. By adding or >>> dropping "kdbus=1" to/from the command line you can enable kdbus or >>> revert back to dbus1 on each individual boot. >>> >>> This stuff is opt-in, and we are very keen on getting feedback and >>> testing for this. The version of kdbus in Rawhide we consider API >>> stable, there is a complete client side available now in systemd, >>> with >>> a client API in sd-bus. Compatibility with good old dbus1 is provided >>> by the "systemd-bus-proxy" service. >>> >>> The folks involved in kdbus development have been running this code >>> on >>> their systems for more than half a year now. There were occasional >>> hiccups, but we fixed everything we ran into, and it works pretty >>> well >>> now. Our focus was specifically on providing the best possible >>> compatibility with dbus1. Now we'd like to increase the testing >>> audience and added this to Rawhide because of this. >>> >>> Further information about kdbus and how to get started you may find >>> here: >>> >>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/kdbus/ >>> >>> We'd very thankful for every Fedora developer testing this and >>> providing bug reports! Any feedback is highly appreciated. >>> >>> Also, should you attend our upcoming conference, we might return the >>> favour by buying you a beer or two: >>> >>> https://systemd.events/ >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Lennart >> >> >> For folks not keen to jump headfirst into Rawhide, is it expected that >> this should work on Fedora 23 or Fedora 22 if one installs only the >> kernel and systemd packages from Rawhide? That might make people more >> comfortable trying it out (and get you more feedback), if so. > > You'll probably only need the rawhide kernel. IIRC, the systemd > package was kdbus ready before the branch was created. The last time I tried this (maybe a month ago in Rawhide), booting with kdbus=1 hung very quickly. I was told that it needed newer systemd to work, so I'd be a bit surprised if F22 is reliable. --Andy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct