On 21.7.2015 19:47, Corey Sheldon wrote: > +1 for not allowing EOL > > Corey W Sheldon > Freelance IT Consultant, Multi-Discipline Tutor > Ameridea LLC, Co-Founder, CTO > (p) +1 (310) 909-7672 > > "One must never underestimate the power of boredom...from which > creativity and laziness are borne, which can spark great works of chaos and > genius." > > Find Me on any of the sites I teach /frequent: > https://gist.github.com/linux-modder/ac5dc6fa211315c633c9 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tox: > corey84@xxxxxxxx > 9357BC6A5944A08AFC7D1EFFD61F6A73B9EABF8B2FB84ACF1DAC9A1A4D0A4705FFCCD0E5499B > PGP: 718BF597 > <http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE958C5D6718BF597> FP: 2930 > 99EB 083D D332 0752 88C4 E958 C5D6 718B F597 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:05:19AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>>> Isn't it true the install media ISOs are available indefinitely? And >>>> if so the security cat is already out of the bag, so that's not a very >>>> good argument. I'd say if we wanted to do something better it would be >>>> an image that's usable for both VM and containers, and would be the >>>> state of that version at the time it went EOL, i.e. it has all >>>> available updates baked into it. And then de-emphasize the original >>>> ISO as the way to run older versions of Fedora. >>> >>> It is true that install media ISOs are available forever, but we don't >>> go backwards in time and create vagrant boxes or IaaS cloud qcow >>> images of old EOL'd Fedora releases that went EOL before those >>> technologies existed and/or became popular. I don't see why we would >>> start doing so now for docker images. >> >> The security downsides of officially distributed docker images for EOL >> versions are already mentioned, and i think that alone should be enough >> to kill the idea. Beyond that though, making these EOL images available >> is going to consume a non-zero amount of maintainer time for at least >> one person, thus inevitably diverting resources away from making current >> non-EOL Fedora better. >> >> Avoiding maintainer time being sucked up on old releases is why we EOL >> them in the first place, and the rationale for existence of long term >> support alternatives like RHEL & CentOS. So I don't think we should >> consider cloud images any differently in that respect. Fedora is about >> being at the cutting edge and that's where we should focus our limited >> resources, even for cloud images. >> >> If people want cloud images with older software versions than are in the >> current supported Fedora, they should be looking for cloud images from >> CentOS/RHEL instead. All EOL software should die by a violent death. We have enough nightmares caused by buggy software which is not-yet EOL, please do not add another pile of ... -- Petr Spacek @ Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
