Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:31:52 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Today I happened to look at this page: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html >> >> from which I can see we have potentially on the order of 100 new >> potential contributors to Fedora whose efforts we're missing out on >> due to a lack of sponsors. Some people seem to have been waiting to be >> sponsored for a couple of years. This is quite an unfortunate >> situation - what can we do to improve that situation? How many >> *active* packaging sponsors do we currently have? > > How many *active* NEEDSPONSOR contributors do we have? > > There are many in the queue, who submit a single package with lots of > mistakes -- or the package not building at all -- and slow response > times in bugzilla, or no response, and who don't follow the How To Get > Sponsored guidelines either. I like to think of being a sponsor as an exciting opportunity to shepherd new contributors to fedora. Taking the attitude of "It's too hard... (mostly) because it will be a lot of work to turn them into good packagers", is... less than constructive here, imo. My blunt suggestion: if that bothers you, then help clean out the queue. Further, I think it's more than just a sponsor shortage, but a *reviewer* shortage too. If only all packagers would strive to do at least as many reviews as packages they've submitted, I think we wouldn't be having this conversation. Hrm, an interesting metric I'd love to see: for all packagers, calculate ratio of pkg-reviews / pkg-submissions-approved, and give big kudos to anyone near 1 or higher (probably with some minimal numbers to be fair here, ie for anyone with pkg-reviews and/or pkg- submissions greater than, say, 5) -- Rex p.s. Heck, for the amount of effort put into this thread so far, I'd venture at least another few reviews could have been done -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct