On 26.06.2015 22:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:21:02 -0400 > Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> But passwords and passphrases are not all the same shape or color - >> the requirements for a password you want to use for ssh login over the >> internet are quite different from ones for a shared account used by >> all family members, or a passphrase that you use to protect your >> diary in your home directory. >> >> How does a single common policy make sense for such wildly different >> use cases ? >> >> Your list of applications looks like you are really only interested in >> passwords for local user accounts, though. If that is the case, please >> make that clear in the description. > > Side note: IMHO, we should remove and stop using the term > 'password'. It evokes back to the early days of UNIX where you had to > choose a 8 character or less 'word' to gain access to something. All > our tools can and should use much longer phrases. > > And yes, you are right there's different needs for different things and > I was focusing on local uses. (Local logins, luks, etc) I'll see if I > can clarify the change page for that. thanks. > >> [...] >> >>> The applications involved in this change should be at least: >>> * anaconda - sets initial root and user passphrases/passwords. >>> * passwd - command line utility that changes passphrases/passwords. >>> * initial-setup - sets up users if they were not setup in anaconda. >> >> You should add gnome-control-center to this list. > > Good idea. Will do so. Cockpit too. We use pwscore from libpwquality, FWIW. Stef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct