On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 09.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Book: >> >> That's great, for people who already know what to do. The problem is for >> people who try to install dkms or akmods and then it doesn't work. There >> are plenty of people who use dkms or akmods modules but don't compile >> anything themselves (and those people are less likely to understand the >> kernel-devel issue). > > > which issue? > > you get the most recent kernel-devel and that's it > > if you don't reboot to the most recent kernel installed on your system > before biuld dkmos/akmod modules - bad luck - but how is that a Fedora > problem at all - both are helpers in case of wrong hardware decisions and so > you need in the worst case to ivent 10 minutes of our time you saved by bouy > random broken hardware > > that *is not* a Fedora problem at all - period You're still assuming they installed kernel-devel manually. Dan is saying people using akmods or DKMS don't do that, which is true. In short, you're wrong that it isn't a Fedora problem but as Thorsten said there is no great solution. Please stop arguing now. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct