Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 1st June 2015 14:15 UTC on #fedora-meeting-2

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On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Václav Pavlín <vpavlin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I am sorry I missed the meeting yesterday - I had a training I completely
> forgot about, but anyway, my comments to the topic(s) follow:
>
> Gathering of an information for the modularization proposal should surely be
> a common effort of e&s and Base - as both WGs has edditions/spins as their
> users
>
> From my pov Base should own intersection of the package set from (all?)
> editions/spins/WGs. Thus if we agree on using scl for our modularization,
> then yes, it should be in Base's hands to add it the core pkg set. But also
> as jreznik said, we screwed up in generating requirements for such
> minimal/common package set:). On the other hand whatever is optional and not
> THE ONE technology we choose to support should be probably in hands of e&s
> so that we don't add bloat to base system.
>
> 14:47:53 <langdon> msekleta, i guess i am making the argument that if e&s
> says "this is how we do x, which relies on y" then e&s needs to work with
> base to get y included in base for use by the editions (or other WGs in
> general)
>
> If it is agreed upon that all editions will benefit from that "x and y",
> then yes. But let's imagine Workstation decides to use xdg-apps and server
> decides to use Docker for similar use cases - how do e&s or Base get
> involved in here?

By providing a common underlying OS platform layer, whether it be as a
set of packages and comps groups, or an Atomic base image.  E&S can
further aid this by providing additional layers that help the WGs
provide API compatibility through scl or whatever other mechanism.

Your question is a good one, but xdg-apps and docker are pretty high
on the layer stack.  They are only one layer down from end user
developer/app, so there are lots of things that they need to work
well.

Maybe Langdon can draw some awesome ascii art to illustrate the layers
he's thinking about.  I would try, but gmail would mess it up.

josh
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