On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 17:11 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Good luck with that vision. I would buy into it a bit more if this > wasn't the same chestnut dragged out every couple of releases to > somehow motivate us to accept whatever big OS change is being pushed. > It has become the "Cry Wolf" story and while eventually the wolf eats > the flock... it does so because no one believes the criers anymore. > Please, come up with a better story than people will drop us for > Ubuntu because none of the changes we have done have stopped that > from > happening when it has happened.. and none of them have made us > overtake Ubuntu in the last 8 years. The difference this time is that our primary competitor is doing it in the near future [1], and we have someone actively working on competing technology [2]. At least for Fedora Workstation, we cannot head towards a future where all of our applications are older than what Ubuntu is shipping. That's untenable for us. [1] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/more-stable-future-ubuntu [2] https://lis ts.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-May/012362.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct