On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Orion Poplawski <orion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > More and more tests/builds appear to require a UTF-8 locale. Perhaps it's > time to have rpm set LANG=C.UTF-8? If a build system needs a particular language, it should be in the build scripts themselves. People do local, personal compilation in environments that use other languages, and in 'LANG=C' or 'LANG=POSIX' to fix the case-sensitive sorting problem for 'sort -i' For reference: if LANG=C or LANG=POSIX, then 'sort' output is case sensitive, and case-insensitive sorting can be activated with 'sort -i'. If LANG=en.US.UTF-8, which is the US installed standard, then no force in creation will restore case sensitive sorting to the 'sort' command without resetting LANG or maybe LOCALE. The result is normally not problematic, but it can create profound consistency when different hosts or different environments or even the same environment at different times have different LANG settings, and it's not tested anywhere near as often as it's implicitly relied on. I recently went a few rounds with this because of a system where admins were starting and restarting services as the daemon user, rather than with a deignated init script, and inheriting different 'LANG' settings depending whether they SSH'ed in from Linux, MacOS, or CygWin. (CygWin was exporting an empty, but active, 'LANG' setting. Hilarity ensued.) -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct