Dne 10.4.2015 v 13:04 Jan Zelený napsal(a): > On 10. 4. 2015 at 09:34:15, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 10.04.2015 um 09:18 schrieb Jan Zelený: >>> On 10. 4. 2015 at 08:53:46, Petr Spacek wrote: >>>> I very much agree with this. As a user, I expect that 'dnf upgrade' will >>>> give me latest packages and that DNF will tell me the fact that newer >>>> packages are available but not installable. >>>> >>>> Maybe it could have a form of plugin, at least for the beginning? >>> Again, dnf check-update already does that >> Again: that argument is pointless because *nobody* is calling it by hand >> after "dnf upgrade" and so that information is *not* available for the >> regular dnf/yum user > The vision for dnf is to be more simple and more effective tool for admins that > will not try to solve problems of other components. On the other hand we want > to enable package maintainers and other advanced users to achieve their use > cases somehow but dnf will never be a debugging tool. Bottom line, we will > consider this feature request but considering it is the only promise I can > give you. > > Thanks > Jan To be honest, I never run "check-update" and I will never run it. If I want to update my system, I run "update", check the list and if there is nothing worrisome, I proceed. If there is something I dislike in the list, I quit. So check-update might be useful for some script, but it is not useful command for common user. Not mentioning that man page basically says: "Please note that having a specific newer version available for an installed package (and reported by check-update) does not imply that subsequent dnf upgrade will install it. The difference is that dnf upgrade must also ensure the satisfiability of all dependencies and other restrictions". In other words, it says it is more or less unreliable command. Vít -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct