On 04/08/2015 08:41 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 7. 4. 2015 at 17:53:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. >> >> WHAT? >> >> --skip-broken is a band-aid to work around packaging mistakes and bugs >> and NOT be the default. >> >> IMO, this kind of behavior is not helpful and therefore should be reverted. > > This behavior is actually helpful, as it doesn't bother users with a bunch of > broken deps messages they usually don't fully understand (check out how many > of these bugs were filed against yum over the years). > > Putting the opinion of myself and the dnf team aside, I'd like to point out > that the information you want is still available - dnf check-update will show > you all the updates, even those that have broken deps. Running this command > right after dnf upgrade will list you those that could not be installed. Would it please be possible for "dnf update" to print this information automatically? E.g. apt-get can say "The following packages have been kept back: ..." dnf could report it like in this mockup: ... Dependencies resolved. ======================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ======================================================================== Upgrading: emacs x86_64 1:24.4-6.fc21 updates-testing 3.0 M emacs-common x86_64 1:24.4-6.fc21 updates-testing 37 M emacs-filesystem noarch 1:24.4-6.fc21 updates-testing 64 k Skipping for dependency reasons: firefox x86_64 37.0.1-1.fc21 updates-testing 69 M Transaction Summary ======================================================================== Upgrade 3 Packages Skip 1 Package Total download size: ... Is this ok [y/N]: Thanks, Michal -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct