So this morning I cloned an up to date rawhide VM and attempted to convert it to F22 by using "dnf distro-sync" on it. Obviously that is a fairly advanced use case but I think one tale of what happened at the end of that process will highlight why I often find myself shouting WTF at dnf when going beyond basic install/update of packages. There were other issues along the way before I got to this point... Having eventually completed the distro-sync I wanted to check for any orphans that needed sorting out. Google told me dnf-plugins-extras was that I needed to replace package-cleanup, so I installed it, only to find that every use of dnf now reported: fedora22 [~] % sudo dnf upgrade Failed to synchronize cache for repo '_local' from 'file:///var/lib/dnf/plugins/local': Cannot download repomd.xml: Cannot download repodata/repomd.xml: All mirrors were tried, disabling. After shouting WTF yet again I determined that dnf-plugins-extras includes python-dnf-plugins-extras-local which apparently tries to use a non-existent local directory as a hidden extra repo. Fine whatever, we don't need that, so lets remove it: fedora22 [~] % sudo dnf erase python-dnf-plugins-extras-local Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Removing: dnf-plugins-extras noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 0 python-beautifulsoup4 noarch 4.3.2-3.fc21 @System 605 k python-dnf-plugins-extras noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 0 python-dnf-plugins-extras-debug noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 26 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-local noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 11 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-orphans noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 9.3 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-repoclosure noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 9.4 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-repograph noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 9.5 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-repomanage noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 12 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-snapper noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 4.4 k python-dnf-plugins-extras-tracer noarch 0.0.6-2.fc22 @System 7.7 k python-html5lib noarch 1:0.999-5.fc21 @System 1.2 M python-psutil x86_64 2.1.3-1.fc22 @System 518 k snapper x86_64 0.2.5-2.fc22 @System 1.0 M snapper-libs x86_64 0.2.5-2.fc22 @System 846 k tracer noarch 0.5.8-1.fc22 @System 272 k Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Remove 16 Packages Installed size: 4.5 M Is this ok [y/N]: y WTF! Oh, of course, removing that removes dnf-plugins-extras and then everything else counts as auto installed and gets removed. After ceasing banging my head on the desk I let it go ahead and then add back python-dnf-plugins-extras-orphans to get the plugin I actually wanted. So now I run "dnf orphans" at last and am a little surprised to get 589 lines of output: fedora22 [~] % sudo dnf orphans CharLS-devel-1.0-8.fc22.x86_64 ... zsh-5.0.7-6.fc22.x86_64 But those are F22 packages I hear you say! Indeed they are, and list confirms that they do exist in configured repositories: fedora22 [~] % sudo dnf list --showduplicates zsh Using metadata from Wed Apr 8 11:02:28 2015 (0:53:45 hours old) Installed Packages zsh.x86_64 5.0.7-6.fc22 @System Available Packages zsh.x86_64 5.0.7-6.fc22 @System zsh.x86_64 5.0.7-6.fc22 fedora-base WTF! Tom -- Tom Hughes (tom@xxxxxxxxxx) http://compton.nu/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct