Hi, Since http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-March/029482.html systemd-timesyncd can be enabled in more places. (That change isn't in F22 now but could be backported easily). Looking at the state of things here, there was a previous discussion on the desktop list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-September/010751.html >From an Atomic Host perspective, systemd-timesyncd now looks fairly equivalent to chrony, and is 140k that's already shipped. (Though if systemd didn't do internal static linking that'd likely be noticeably smaller...anyways, the packaging of systemd is a separate discussion). Anaconda looks like it only supports chrony. Although, it seems weird that Anaconda itself is doing the bridging of DHCP NTP servers to chrony config - seems like something to fix in NetworkManager itself so that it knows how to copy configuration acquired at install time to the target. And even then, it seems like we could get away with not setting the NTP servers persistently from the DHCP lease acquired at install time, and instead just rely on NM/systemd-networkd to set them when the system boots again, right? This however would require NetworkManager -> timesyncd integration. Filed that as https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746911 It appears to me that at least Fedora Server has ntp installed but not running, which (looks) is due to freeipa-client having a Requires: on ntp. Which came from https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/2974 Besides gnome-control-center then, I guess the switch of systemd-timedated to only supporting systemd-timesyncd impacts FreeIPA too. But it wouldn't seem that hard for gnome-control-center and freeipa-client to grow minimal awareness of how to use systemd-timesyncd's dbus api to set the server. Currently I'm leaning towards enabling systemd-timesyncd by default for Atomic Host at least, but sending this mail to get a discussion across the products. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct