Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

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On 02/24/2015 03:11 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 15:09, Deepak Bhole wrote:
* Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:04]:
On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 14:28, Jiri Vanek wrote:
[...]
There were several attempts in past like "can you please support jdk
7,6...in newer fedoras" and we always told no. When come speech about "do it
on your own" suddenly many questions marks raised up.

The last open bug is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1190137
the guy is willing to maintain it.

Fine, so let him do it and drop the Obsoletes: tag in java-1.8.0-openjdk
and its successors. You shouldn't arbitrarily block people from
re-introducing an older branch of any package back into Fedora in the
first place.


We have no intention of blocking it. The reason for proposing these
restrictions is that the Fedora Java stack will not work with older
JDKs, therefore we need to make sure that it goes not get installed on
the system unless explicitly requested by someone who knows what they
are doing.

Well, you do that by adding/updating (Build)Requires: in the packages
which won't work otherwise, not by adding Obsoletes:.

No. They are (B)R java. We are obsoleting older version of java and doing mass rebuild. Thats the only way how to ensure whole stack is build by same jdk - main jdk - and we need to ensure 99% of people will be using the correct jdk with correct application

I probably miss your point, you seems to be unaware about haw java udates and stack is working

best regards from cz,

  J.
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