> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:00, Jan Zelený <jzeleny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Also I'd like to point out that if two packages offer the same provide, by > definition it means they are 100% exchangeable from the perspective of that > functionality. This is very, very wrong. Even minor differences in packaging and API can break stable configurations when they occur without notice. The classic example is "mysql-libs", which every MySQL fork includes and which are incompatible with components from other forks, and for which updates cause mixed updated from different major forks. Hilarity ensues. > >>> 2) It is easy to fix if you know it happens >> >> When rel-eng is doing a mass rebuild of 18K+ packages how are we >> suppose to know it happens? > > You are not supposed to know this. It's supposed to be fixed in rawhide long > before you get to it. > >>> 3) DNF is not going to change, so it must be fixed in packages anyway. >> >> So there's known issues your not going to fix and, from the comment >> below, you don't know if there's other similar issues or ones that >> might be worse? > > This interpretation is unfair to people who work on dnf. If there is an issue > that is clearly a bug and not just a difference in expectation, it will be > fixed. If it's the latter, it needs some discussion first. Vit is correctly > pointing out that dnf is not yum and you should therefore not expect it to > behave the same in every situation. > >>> I'd be glad if somebody of rel-engs can give us the list of packages >>> which suffers similar issues. >> >> Are we expected to cross referencing previous logs to see if there's >> changes or if it's the same and provide you that information? We >> already have too much to do so it's easier to stick with yum where we >> know what the outcome is. Sorry, not going to do your work for you! > > Again, this is a bit unfair. Nobody asked you to do his work for him. We would > just appreciate your help. We would like you to work with us, not for us. > > Thanks > Jan > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
