Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Database Server Role

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Am 20.01.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Stephen Gallagher:
On Tue, 2015-01-20 at 08:03 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
The Fedora Server Product will provide a standard deployment mechanism for a
Linux Database Server (powered by the postgresql project).

How about just calling this the PostgreSQL Server role?  Why should this
get the generic "database" name (what if the MariaDB maintainers want to
make a Database Server as well for example)?  No matter the engine,
users have to know what they are connecting to; there is no generic
"talk to the database server" protocol, so I don't see a reason to try
to make a generic database server role.

The intent is that we plan to offer one "official" Database Server Role
for Fedora Server. By electing to use the generic name, we provide a
subtle indication that this is the one that you should code against. A
MariaDB or MySQL Role is certainly welcome, but by a strong majority
vote in the WG, we picked PostgreSQL as the technology that Fedora
Server will be backing directly. Thus, it gets to have the generic name.

One of the core focuses of Fedora Server is to simplify things. It's
meant to help less-experienced users of Linux get up and running with
common activities more quickly. Providing the "PostgreSQL" role and the
"MariaDB" role means that we've forced the user to do additional
research to figure out what they want. However, if we name one "Database
Server", we are implicitly telling the user: "use this one, unless you
have a specific need"

you think you do "less-experienced" users a favor with postgresql?

the hundrets of MySQL databases i am responsible for are mostly origined in MySQL 3.x times, moved from Windows over OSX to Linux and seamless upgraded up to MariaDB 10 with any dump/restore

postgresql is not *that* easy to handle hence i gave even up my playground for it long ago

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