Re: F22 System Wide Change: Harden all packages with position-independent code

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Am 19.01.2015 um 21:34 schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Am 19.01.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:

Would that make it impossible to run fedora on sse-only i686 CPUs?


Yes, but test coverage for those CPUs is already rather poor, so I don't
expect them to work anymore.


See other replies, people are running such machines.

Given x86_64 exists for many years and even embedded (see aarch64) is
moving to 64bit these days i386 clearly is for old legacy hardware.  If
you need performance you don't run a i386 machine.

So, why bother raising the bar for i386 by requiring more cpu features?
It doesn't help anyone.


"rpmrc" has optflags: for different architectures

so why not optimize only "optflags: x86_64" for more recent hardware?
since i686 is a complete different build anyways it won't matter

on my private builders it's "-mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes
-mfpmath=sse"

Because that doesn't make sense for multiple reasons:

you show none below because it said "keep i686 flags unchanged"

1) mmx is basically obsolete

in theory

2) sse2 is the default fp ABI on x86_64 anyway and thus supported by
*all* x86_64 cpus

so be it

3) Requiring sse4.2 or even 4.1 would exclude a lot of hardware

did i propose that?

i said "private builders" to show that keep supporting > 10 years old hardware is just silly because you waste HW capabilities - noweher did i propose *that* falgs

4) You don't just throw in some compiler flags and assume it will gain
you anything (you'd probably have to either turn on O3 or
vectorization as well)

-O3 is the default for my builds starting with 2006

.. most applications where it really matters do
detection at runtime (even glibc does that)

the topic is still: hwta can be changed in the x86_64 flags *without* break old 32bit crap some people rely for several reasons



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