Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

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Am 15.01.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote:

    Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
    >On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user
    >were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a
    >program, should an actual bug come along, because you would need a
    >different build to get useful output in the console or a logging
    >service.

    Nah, it takes only a command line parameter to turn on debug
logging. An
    environment variable could also be used. A different build isn't
needed.
    It's no harder to make logging conditional at run time than it is to
    make it conditional at build time.

The programs mentioned above do not have a debugging or verbosity flag,
like e.g. "nmap -dd"

then they are broken and instead that the developer spits full my
terminal started a remote X11 appplication because i touch something in
that window he better would include such a switch defaulting to off

start "kate" (kde app) in a remote SSH session like below

"udisks2" is masked? so what - i know that
hence there is a entry in rsyslog to shut up

that crap appears everytime you successful open a file

and BTW messages like "Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)" which appears for many years now prove that it is *completly useless* and even the developers of the application itself don't care

otherwise such warning would go away over time

the same for broken desktop-files and what not reported again and again in that context and nobody cares about - so why annoy the ordinary user with that debug informations all day long?


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