-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:40:35 +0100 Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dne 14.1.2015 v 16:00 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:57:59 +0100 > > Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On 01/13/2015 06:01 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > >> that all being said. koji doesn't use any caching and will not > > >> use the lvm plugin. we make every buildroot from scratch using a > > >> fully clean environment to help with ensuring reproducability. > > > > > You can cache and still preserve reproducability. What I'm > > > planning for Copr is to do (every week/month) for chroot in > > > fedora-20-x86_64 fedora-21_86_64 ... ; do mock --init $chroot > > > done > > > take snapshot of that. I plan to do that on VM level. > > > And when new task come, I will just restore from that snapshot. > > > And mock will start with already populated cache. So I will have > > > better caching and yet reproducability. > > > > you really can't. you would need to make a new cache any time one > > of the packages in the minimal buildroot changes. > > Actually this is not anytime. newRepo has to be run, which is not run > more then 4 times per hour I'd say. If the new snapshot is prepared as > part of newRepo task, the mock could reuse the snapshot. ok I have a data point here https://ausil.fedorapeople.org/buildroots the file in the link is the output of a sql query on koji's db it gives the number of times a unique repo was used on a builder to do a build. so basically it tells you if we cached the buildroots somehow how many times they would get used. $ grep "^ 19 |" buildroots|wc -l 1 $ grep "^ 18 |" buildroots|wc -l 0 $ grep "^ 17 |" buildroots|wc -l 0 $ grep "^ 16 |" buildroots|wc -l 2 $ grep "^ 15 |" buildroots|wc -l 1 $ grep "^ 14 |" buildroots|wc -l 0 $ grep "^ 13 |" buildroots|wc -l 8 $ grep "^ 12 |" buildroots|wc -l 13 $ grep "^ 11 |" buildroots|wc -l 14 $ grep "^ 10 |" buildroots|wc -l 15 $ grep "^ 9 |" buildroots|wc -l 20 $ grep "^ 8 |" buildroots|wc -l 24 $ grep "^ 7 |" buildroots|wc -l 40 $ grep "^ 6 |" buildroots|wc -l 59 $ grep "^ 5 |" buildroots|wc -l 84 $ grep "^ 4 |" buildroots|wc -l 155 $ grep "^ 3 |" buildroots|wc -l 409 $ grep "^ 2 |" buildroots|wc -l 1446 $ grep "^ 1 |" buildroots|wc -l 4794 What I get from this is that in the majority of cases caching won't help at all. The cost of creating the cache is higher than the benefit we would get. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUtvHgAAoJEH7ltONmPFDRP/sP/1iteUyvThkZLQGH4o+MY4uX oIwdgwQQwkkjvpCyjFP1yyO5aJa/BTiOGSMtT0vQtnfAl+qYs7IiqGH6VJkNt+Io Lmqr0yItXLr6ZyTwuKha2XYa88g+q657VmaJT/OmXGqi0Ezx8Rj/6NLXcV6twgKW LD3YjxtPmyxX79p7RrkrI5+iJ+Iyw48HLepZup+XOfydOJ0RWZccRVlm0c0MYzt1 P6H0M+iiDikLl2NE1/jCTx+/P9yQNSQ8zhMVCjhevGiHSHmhIZmcpPib/IYGfRBN OmgTaQ9XSaePNNrE4iqq6bQQ9fKqpA1FDlj1U2IaEHTh0CQ9zLCqKBuOl0ky98zY /m3obzNSYu441tl/1Ig6imzRXga/iQ0jo8WnQoW8Grh3JtGpNM6NVPEUkkyKWCxE XuagkPGWqP7x8YT/czn0Y9ZGjA+jIijzhdcAJ8R9R94wuhy+wvY5F69z6FKSycX6 Mho6yGj6cOrIB+F3Vs2+zn4rmtsU8jT7uhYc81CHJ0pEilcnINvFW9VDw7gYKq1E LFzxMeixQugtGO39PqVFdG7WErqX2pjInJLu/CZIVz0bofQ17RuE006yl1pS4+jG HoF6pCbZlapsRWS6TqXiMPhTSruszbZ733zihOgbDNSB6kIXZgI9nqj/jN8s8Dw1 ikGLTDN8nrnFxWMSt9pY =/MGg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct