Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

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On 01/12/2015 08:52 PM, Milan Keršláger wrote:
Dne 12.1.2015 v 20:46 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:39:35 +0100
Milan Keršláger <milan.kerslager@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

...snip...

Hey Milan.

I understand you have a strong opinion on this topic as does pjp.

This is however no reason to bring personal attacks into things.

Oh well. I'm stupid! Sorry. Or... really did I said something like this?
To not have technical argument is ok as seems.

Milan, calm down. You may not be stupid and no one has suggested so by now. But you may be perceived as troll in this thread.

Seems you misunderstand the difference between hypothesis and demonstrating something. All you have made is a claim based on water. No facts. No technical arguments. Just. An. Opinion. Have I missed something more than that?

I will paraphrase you: Is this about security or about your ego?

It is not to say I disagree with your opinion that simply disabling root login is bad idea.

Not because it would make things less secure. With password logins enabled the bar is so low it is not easy to make it lower. (May be it does not apply for an average Fedora user but definitely does for an average computer user which Fedora now tries to target with some changes.)

But because it is a hindrance. IMHO when contemplating incompatible change of the default let's make it worth the trouble and make the default really secure by disabling password logins completely and for all accounts.

I would love to see an Security spoke added to Anaconda where one could override level of security and particular details like this.

-- Martian


This is not about security and never was. Shame.

Please focus on the technical discussion.

kevin


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