[Tonight I did a yum upgrade on a slightly newer intel gfx system, i915G, and did not have this problem, so...] Stephen John Smoogen composed on 2015-01-09 09:15 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> P4 2.8G, no hyperthreading, with i865G video. >> F20 and F21 work normally. >> Kernel 3.19.0-0.rc3.git1.2.fc22.i686+PAE on an i686 >> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-2.fc22.i686 >> xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.16.2.901-1.fc22.i686 >> Installing libinput didn't help. >> Chmod 4711 /usr/bin/Xorg didn't help. > I am interested in knowing why it would... I was throwing darts over my shoulder. :-p > OK first thing I would check is where in the stack is this occuring: > Does startx with twm/fvwm2/simple thing work? None were installed, so I did another yum upgrade and tried again. No change, so I installed IceWM, which works, and from its xterm I was able to run Konsole. > If yes then I am expecting it is a KDE item and the kde lists will be > needed to figure it out enough to punt back to the general list. EG KDE > doesn't like working with two videos for some reason. > If no then it is an X thing and hopefully the X people can help you find > out if it is a pure hard problem (your video card is no longer functioning Its 11 year old onboard i865G works (subject to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85016) "normally" in Mageia 4, Cauldron (2.99.917-3), openSUSE 13.1, 13.2/X11:XOrg (3.0.0git aka 2.99.917) and Tumbleweed/Factory/X11:XOrg (also 3.0.0git aka 2.99.917), and F20 and F21 (2.99.916-3). > correctly, needs some sort of microdriver update, etc) or is a software > problem. Must be software, either Intel 2.99.917-2 driver and/or Plasma and/or Xorg, and only for this particular video hardware variety. > Or three the way you are starting a second startx only worked by magic > before and some fix in the stack stopped the magic. >> KDE in F22 works fine via KDM, but after 2nd icon paints starting from >> startx, either plain without KDM running, or after logging in via KDM then >> from a vty startx -- :1, the machine hard locks, no input from mouse or >> keyboard is possible, and remote login dies. Kevin Kofler composed on 2015-01-09 23:46 (UTC+0100) > FYI, it's kinda pointless to test the KDE Plasma currently in Rawhide/F22, > as the Plasma 5 import is coming very soon. >> If I do startx -- :1 from Konsole, I get dumped to a black screen, but >> keyboard works to switch among all ttys, showing either login prompts, >> shell >> prompt, or a cursor in upper left corner of an otherwise all black screen. >> Top on the remote login remains active showing a single Xorg.bin, >> plasma-desktop and krunner each. >> I can't seem to find any clues about the lockups in dmesg, Xorg.0.log, >> elsewhere in /var/log/ or from journalctl. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct