Re: F22 System Wide Change: Harden all packages with position-independent code

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Am 09.01.2015 um 16:56 schrieb John Reiser:
On 01/09/2015 04:05 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

*but* since *mobile phones* and other operating systems in the
meantime are full PIE and it improves security how can someone justify
the reason performance on a desktop/server distribution with much more
powerful hardware?

Often the usage statistics are vastly different.  A mobile phone might
instantiate
a module (main program or shared library) a few thousand times per day,
while a
desktop/server often instantiates a module many thousand times per minute.
Thus the initial costs of processing the relocation table often do not
matter
on the phone, but can be significant on the desktop/server

you missed a important post of another person
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iOS 4.3 or later, and OS X 10.7 or later, fully support PIE executables;
moreover, applications submitted for distribution via Apple's App Store
are required to be fully position-independent

In OpenBSD, the amd64 and other platforms have been switched to PIE
(position-independent executables) by default
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I don't want to go the road where press articles say a specific bug in software XYZ available for Linux, BSD and OSX would have only on Fedora not been mitigated because we still discuss over performance impacts while others already went ahead

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations
First represents our commitment to innovation

I would welcome Fedora be first in things like this topic instead as often in the past replace already working things with unfinished alpha quality and need 3 follow-up releases to get back from where it came and praise "new things" which are in fact regression-fixes and features which where there before the replacements

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