-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dne 8.1.2015 v 15:03 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): >>> >>> * Tentative date for side-tag merge is 2015-01-28 (sgallagh, >>> 19:09:55) >>> >> >> What does it mean actually? Does it mean that if I plan to do rebuild of >> Ruby packages in side-tag, I am supposed to be finished before 28th, >> i.e. in less then 3 weeks? Considering that Ruby was not approved yet by >> FESCO and that Ruby change more or less blocks Ruby on Rails change, how >> are we supposed to handle everything? >> > > Yes, it needs to be finished before the 28th. If that cannot be done, > then consider deferring this change to Fedora 23. My feature was submitted to wrangler 17th of December and it will be hopefully approved 14th January (one month later) ... I could even submit it until 20th of January, which means FESCo would approve it 28th of January at the best, which is the same date like the side-tag merge. So where is the time in the schedule I can actually do my work? And I won't start with any builds until the change is approved, because .... I don't know actually, but I believe that the FESCo approval should come first prior I start any rebuilds, because although the builds are done in side tag, the possible reverts in master are not for free. > > > The reason for "tentative" was mostly so we could get feedback from > rel-eng on whether this is actually feasible. > >> >> On the other hand, there are two week between branch and freeze, what >> are these good for? Is it just for maintainers to enjoy work with branches? > > I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. There needs to be a gap > between branching and Freeze so that things can settle out. (For > example, there are often a few packages that need post-branch updates > for a variety of reasons. Also, the branch process itself sometimes > needs some time to shake out the bugs. Obviously, you don't give me as a developer any time to actually develop something, but then you give two weeks to settle down something which does not need settling ... or it needs settling because I don't have time to develop something, depends on the way how you look at it. Sorry for being grumpy about this but according to the original proposal [1], I should have enough time till branch in worst case, which was scheduled to 10th February, now suddenly you shorten the period just to half of the time. This is not nice. Vít [1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases/22/Schedule&oldid=397875 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUrpTVAAoJEAzgnueZF7h8APQP/AktGHKSweuPOlo4aP27EcYv AVhpCHU5L+7BIaitQnkfHWDn0Ue+vNeCtheKpTd016HBnzlUhSKKVhwxow+kd76j kyd/a4wMMQU2qvubOqydkLz/wyAnKYzNcDgieSh5lJ/5Q+MxZ5B8S0TjABX6O9eQ qOGoHgE/5R3fvYfVyQqkSnI5ohMjmpaY8HwNdAySoxXbf0pd1OjZgK17F5lhzuek Mj8etJDazB8RKHZACtYJlHKaN98djImbhQsMh5SyY6NOoCj0stoBABebCfxGLS2/ wMY39Q+tvHZbKCqx8rpSGOks6/0Tmy2/lhjuxWRtCjRyZI5feh2PZUZeLlgLSdqB GqsQ0GYHmkYvNH5MNrUGV87MUf3T81hQf+5tqXmg62kenR3pbHDuaDdTnPAyEegG QMBA91O7J8ZJMqncslUtyTzUb6+AeqbAON55mTbsGZgiExFhJAwyS8JyLxisiQrU zNihDgdM2WqmgxWusOdubGFMoAd4mMrbX3Ak9YdgzJqO9zzhMdOn74CWGKJQvkAw inTtJP/bScyH1Yim+FBo1dyrvfER06EIeyMtncJhW4eH9j5U2IIB66FK+QNoYJ7w 5avEAw36qMk0bcKja31VnRipD9D7QsB2dVk9zEPOINK6L20ZhTUda67zPPjCmDWJ VAliNF7vCCvSKwl4xQ78 =gQF0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct