Am Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:25:58 +0000 schrieb devel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 13:58:47 -0800 > From: Luya Tshimbalanga <luya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming > from gnome-software and desktop environments > Message-ID: <54A32017.7080707@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 30/12/14 12:34 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: > > On 30/12/14 20:57, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >> On 29/12/14 04:33 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: > >>> > >>> This certainly works, but is it really a reasonable trade-off in a > >>> developer context where things like compilers and interpreters are > >>> part of the very core? What role does Gnome Software play here? How > >>> fruitful is the idea to hide packages in this context? > > > >> Compiler and interpreters i.e.Glade having GUI and implements app-data > >> (supposedly mandatory starting on Fedora 22) will be displayed on Gnome > >> Software. > > > > Glade is neither a compiler nor an interpreter, it's an IDE. > My bad. > > > >> Gnome Software is to abstract the package concept to only > >> focus on applications accessible to desktop. > > > > Agreed. And I can see some usecases where this makes a lot of sense. > > > > But the question then becomes if this is the proper thing to do for > > the Workstation target user which is a developer. As such, she will in > > many cases want to install things like gcc, different python stacks > > using collections, text processing tools and so on. None of which with > > a GUI. She will also sometimes be interested in multiple desktops for > > testing etc., causing the "MATE apps not visible" problem. > > > What about DevAssistant that comes with Fedora Workstation? Have you > tried it? > MATE apps not visible means they needed app-data included on their > .desktop files hence the pleas from Richard Hughes. This is all done since some months in upstream and will land in fedora with mate-1.10 soon. But i don't think that mate devs are very happy and motivated to do more because of the restricted gsettings defaults of gnome-software. [rave at fedora-21 ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.software compatible-projects ['GNOME', 'KDE', 'XFCE'] In general mate desktop don't need such a software because outside from fedora most other major distros don't use gnome as default desktop. And for fedora mate use yumex and for f22 we will use yumex-dnf. Wolfgang -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
